tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post6771124027073304821..comments2023-10-26T04:38:06.297-04:00Comments on TeachPaperless: Twitter or Television?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14091328599818819777noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-58071547371125275752011-03-31T06:44:32.392-04:002011-03-31T06:44:32.392-04:00Good conversation and thoughts:)
I'd say the ...Good conversation and thoughts:)<br /><br />I'd say the major reason you feel more lonely via SM is the "disconnect" that doesn't happen via TV.<br /><br />In a tv show there's a constant story driving forward all in a connected way without breaks (apart from ads). Through SM there's normally time between receiving and responding to messages where one has time to think and reflect. The conversations also tend to deal with several diverse topics and not contain a straight story line. <br /><br />Watching tv also means you occupy more senses, sight and sound. Try having a skype call with video and see if you feel as lonely...@collentinehttp://collentine.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-87024154873106976072011-03-09T22:23:25.045-05:002011-03-09T22:23:25.045-05:00Great points, John. I, too, am becoming more and m...Great points, John. I, too, am becoming more and more skeptical of the KoolAid--mostly because I fear mob mentality. <br /><br />As for your questions:<br /><br />1) I have been blessed to have met many of my Twitter friends face to face. When I interact with them I can actually 'see' them and 'hear' their voices.<br /><br />2) I would say, as far as 'lonely' goes, I feel like the more I interact, the more I keep checking to see if I have a message/mention/etc.. Maybe it's a false sense of loneliness? I do feel guilty for not spending as much time face to face with people I care about.<br /><br />3) I think our narrative is only forever changed if we let it be.<br /><br />4) As for traditional media and online media balance--what is traditional media? TV? Many people watch 'traditional TV' online! Maybe a balance of time online/offline<br /><br />5) I would argue that people think less when watching TV and 'lose themselves' in the story/images on the screen because they don't interact with them. Maybe that's more dangerous?<br /><br />Again, great things to think about.mshertzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02995665815087186953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-57139727433243681412011-03-07T10:50:35.521-05:002011-03-07T10:50:35.521-05:00Sally, I've seen all three of those things in ...Sally, I've seen all three of those things in various tweets. Narrative, humor, art: even two at once. In a Twitter *stream*, rather than an individual tweet, I've seen all three in play.<br /><br />Perhaps it's a question of average. I don't see the average tv show as demonstrating all three, for instance.Bryan Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05937099144329508708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-4849717644980892712011-03-06T19:28:31.069-05:002011-03-06T19:28:31.069-05:00You bring up great questions that I have found mys...You bring up great questions that I have found myself asking as well.<br /><br />I will try to address a few..<br /><br />1. For me, Twitter is a platform to network. I can meet those with similar interests or whose personal or professional missions align with mine at virtually no cost. I use tweet-ups to identify these people, and if I find a reason to continue the conversation, I exchange contact info, set up Skype meet-and-greets, or begin to follow their blog. The key to Twitter is to use it as a tool to identify others and continue the communication elsewhere, not as an end-all-be-all technology in and of itself.<br /><br />4. There definitely needs to be a balance. What I love most about Twitter, however, is the democracy of it as a media outlet. It isn't the Tweeter (is that the noun for someone who tweets?) with the most amount of advertising dollars who gets their voice heard. It's the individual who provides the most value to their followers who gets RT-ed, mentioned, and followed. On a global scale, Twitter has forever changed the way that that the disenfranchised get their voices heard. Less dramatic, but equally important, it has changed the way various parties communicate with one another. For education, it brings together parents, students, principals, educators, and textbook authors.<br /><br />Cheers!<br />Jordan<br />@jrwolfeJordan Wolfehttp://www.uwemp.com/author/jordan/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-83365620775846977132011-03-05T08:28:20.973-05:002011-03-05T08:28:20.973-05:00I feel lonely all the time, even when spending tim...I feel lonely all the time, even when spending time with my family, so maybe this is just part of the human experience. The older I get the less I try to fight that loneliness as something to try and avoid and/or fear. I try to enjoy them and learn from them like silences and empty space. <br /><br />I get what you are saying John, as you know I have been dealing with this alienation 2.0 for some time. Perhaps, we are over thinking tall of this. We share online, because we are obviously looking for something, but I think for some of this, it has nothing to do with the web or technology. It is the yearning of the writer or the artist to connect. <br /><br />Unlike TV, we want our thoughts to cause reactions and talk back to us....sorry I am rambling now and feeling disconnected. Looking forward to our Skype chat soon, maybe we can fill in some of that space between us there.Jabizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060918134697370964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-89607092115921274872011-03-05T01:07:30.661-05:002011-03-05T01:07:30.661-05:00hey John..
1. do you skype much? that's wher...hey John.. <br /><br />1. do you skype much? that's where i feel the most connected. that's where i'd say i recover or even breed space. <br /><br />2. i often feels holes, or incompletes on twitter. like you say, a loud party and sometimes you can't really hear. but - i'm relatively new to all of this. it may be an art i don't yet fully understand.<br /><br />3. i don't think we're forever altered, i think that's a choice. perhaps forever misunderstood. like Bernard Shaw's quote: The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place. i think we're good as long as we realize there's always more than what we gather in that moment of time. it actually magnifies this truth for face to face, makes it clearer there, because it's so obvious on twitter. to me.<br /><br />4. balance in everything, no?<br /><br />5. i don't watch tv. but i did growing up. in the moment i might have felt less lonely. but comparing afters, tv made me feel more lonely. twitter is a connection with real people, real stories. some that i just can't wait to meet face to face or hear more of the next day. i like that feeling.monika hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17903730727359304285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-19010292579868327902011-03-04T22:14:26.812-05:002011-03-04T22:14:26.812-05:00I think the first key to media happiness and emoti...I think the first key to media happiness and emotional connectedness is the presence of narrative (which can be pretty absent from intellectual debates with people you hardly know, regardless of the media). <br /><br />Another key is humour. I feel more connected reading a comic than anything else in my feed reader. My best Internet experiences by far involve laughing until I cry (thank you, iPhone auto-correct, for my most recent mirth-based melt down). It's even better when it's a back and forth joke that you are involved in writing. That is the online opposite of lonely. <br /><br />The third key to media happiness is art. In my opinion, a show like the Colbert Report is very well-crafted. It's deeply satisfying to consume a well-planned, focused and thoughtful narrative, delivered with humour, by excellent communicators who are aware of visual and linguistic nuances. <br /><br />I don't think you're going to find much of any of these three things in the average tweet.Sally Lynn McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281054641088940320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-19692672136566660872011-03-04T19:04:57.308-05:002011-03-04T19:04:57.308-05:00Thank you for answering, and for answering quickly...Thank you for answering, and for answering quickly.<br /><br />To your replies:<br /><br />1) I can see that. What media best present characters to you, then, either fiction or non?<br /><br />2) Understood. (Personally, I was a serious tv junkie as a kid. Broke the habit about 15 years ago)<br /><br />3) Say more about blogs and stories? Too late for me to add to the book, but I'm eager to learn, always.Bryan Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05937099144329508708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-68797310965909132482011-03-04T17:52:24.668-05:002011-03-04T17:52:24.668-05:00Good points. I'll take a stab at them:
1. I ...Good points. I'll take a stab at them:<br /><br />1. I don't feel connected to tv characters as people, but I do feel connected to the story. The medium allows for a sense of disconnection relationally, which means there are no expectations. Twitter, on the other hand, follows an unspoken metaphor of meeting in a room, being in a bar, talking at a party. If, by social media, it's a more social version of media, then it's very relational. If, by social media, we mean a more digital version of social interaction, then it leaves me feeling lonely. <br /><br />2. I have never been much of a tv viewer - both as a child and as an adult. So, it's really not as much about exposure as it is expectations. <br /><br />3. I tend to agree, but I think the best storytelling happens on blogs rather than other forms of social media. My blog tends to be very story-centric.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10956056168256756705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7029419017923677229.post-40758934069136981382011-03-04T11:26:57.028-05:002011-03-04T11:26:57.028-05:00A few thoughts, John.
First, do you feel connecte...A few thoughts, John.<br /><br />First, do you feel connected to tv characters as people? As somebodies you know?<br /><br />Second, how long have you been watching tv?<br /><br />Third, digital storytelling has enormous power online.Bryan Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05937099144329508708noreply@blogger.com